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Prop firm accounts · priced honestly

Social media lies, math doesn't.

Prop firms earn more from evaluation fees than from profit splits. The average buyer spends $600–800 across two or three attempts and withdraws nothing. And every payout screenshot on your feed arrives with a discount code attached, including mine. So here is the same purchase priced honestly, on real published numbers, with the parts that don't favor me left in.

100 traders buy evaluations
Fees paid to the firm$0
Paid out to traders$0
Got nothing0 of 100
Measured industry rates: about 14% pass, and about 45% of those ever reach a payout. Illustrated with a typical $150 eval and a $1,000 net payout per paid trader.
Pay caps throttle what you recover

You made $3,000. You can take $800 of it.

Withdrawn after the cap and 80% split Firm’s 20% split Left in the account, still exposed to your drawdown

 

Typical cap per payout$600–$2,750
Wait between payouts5–10 days
Funded accounts lost in 90 days40–50%

Profit you can't withdraw yet is still the firm's to take back. Every capped payout leaves the rest sitting above your drawdown until the next window, and that's where most of it goes. Not every firm caps payouts: Traders Launch and Breakout don't, and MyFundedPerps allows a request every day. Compare plans in §6.

The advertised return — Headline payout ÷ one discounted eval fee. Assumes you pass first try and withdraw the headline number.
Expected return, same purchase — —

What the feed doesn't post

None of these are secrets. They are published industry figures. They simply never appear next to a payout screenshot.

93%Never receive a payoutOf everyone who buys a challenge. Roughly 7% ever withdraw a dollar.
42% / 38%Fees vs profit splitsShare of industry revenue. The firm earns more from failure than from your winnings.
15%Paid to affiliatesOf net industry revenue. Creator marketing is a budget line, not a coincidence.
$600–800Average spend per traderAcross several attempts. Most reset or repurchase at least twice before stopping.
40–50%Lose it within 90 daysOf traders who do get funded. Median account longevity is 3–6 months.
$850MIndustry revenue, 2026Up 45% in a year, on a 7% payout rate. The growth is in fees, not trading.
§1

The four errors

Error 1 · Wrong numerator

It quotes the cap, not the average

Across 300,000+ funded accounts the average payout was about 4% of account size. On the plan you picked the profit target is —, so a realistic withdrawal is anchored near that, not at the headline number.

Error 2 · Wrong denominator

It divides by one eval fee

You don't buy one eval, you buy evals until one passes. At a — pass rate that is — evals per funded account, and the failures are real money.

Error 3 · Missing gate

Passing is not getting paid

Only 45% of funded traders ever reach a single payout. The rest pass, get the account, and withdraw nothing. Marketing math skips this gate entirely.

Error 4 · Wrong account size

It isn't a $100K account

Max drawdown is —. That is your real risk budget, not the number on the plan. The six-figure number is a label, not capital. See §3.

§2

Pick the firm and plan

Real published pricing for three of my partner firms, with each firm's code discount applied. Everything on this page recomputes when you change anything.

Firm
Plan
Account size

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Your pass rate—
Industry measured: 14%. Anything above that assumes you beat the field.
Funded → paid rate—
Industry measured: 45%. The gate nobody advertises.
Lifetime withdrawal—
1R = the max drawdown, the only capital genuinely at risk. Gross profit withdrawn per paying trader, before the split.
Monthly cost once funded—
Data, platform or VPS fees you pay yourself. TradingView Premium is about $59/mo.
Months held funded—
How long the account survives, paying or not.
Accounts stacked—
Copy-traded across all of them, as most people run it.
Advertised payout—
The number in the ad you're checking.
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§3

The account is not what it says

The only number that governs your risk is the max drawdown. Everything else is branding.

Advertised size—

What the plan is called, and what the ad puts in the headline.

Real risk budget—

Max drawdown. — of the advertised figure. Lose this and the account is gone.

Target vs risk budget—

You must earn — your entire risk budget before you can withdraw.

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§4

Where 100 evaluations go

Evals bought
100 accounts
Pass the eval
— funded
Reach a payout
— get paid
Paid nothing
— zero

At the measured industry rates (14% and 45%) that last row reads 94 out of 100. The widely cited figure is that roughly 7% of everyone who buys a challenge ever sees a payout.

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§5

Cost of one funded account

Priced properly: the failed attempts are part of the cost of the pass.

Line itemPer accountStacked
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§6

Every plan, ranked

Same pass rate, same payout assumption, each firm's own code discount. Ranked by return on every dollar spent, the right metric when your constraint is budget rather than account slots. Tap a row to select it.

#PlanEvalTargetDrawdownEV / accountReturn on spend

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§7

Where the sign flips

Expected profit per funded account on your selected plan. Rows are your pass rate, columns are the share of funded traders who reach a payout. Green is profitable, red is not.

loses moneymakes moneyColour depth tracks size · the white edge marks where a row turns profitable
How each cell is calculated

EV = (paid rate × your share of the withdrawal) − (eval fee ÷ pass rate) − activation − funded-phase costs

Worked example, top-left cell on your plan: the eval is — after the code, and your share of the withdrawal is —. At a 10% pass rate you buy 10 evals on average to get one pass, so a pass costs —. At a 20% paid rate the expected withdrawal is —. That is —.

The division is the whole point. Marketing multiplies the payout by your pass rate. The real cost of a pass divides the fee by it, which is why halving your pass rate doubles your cost per funded account.

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§8

What stacking actually does

Several accounts on one copier is not diversification. It's the same single bet, written several times.

Copy-traded · how people run it—

Chance you finish the cycle with nothing. One skill draw applied to every account at once. Stacking multiplied your stake, not your odds.

Genuinely independent · hypothetical—

Chance of nothing if every account traded a truly uncorrelated strategy. Almost nobody achieves this, which is why the left number is the honest one.

Stacking multiplies the sign of your edge. It doesn't create one. If expected value per account is positive, more accounts earn more. If it's negative, they lose money faster. The sign is set by your pass rate and the payout gate, and both are the same on one account as on ten.
§9

The honest conclusion

This is what separates this from every "prop firms are a scam" video: at a genuinely good pass rate the expected value can be positive. The advertising isn't lying about the direction. It's lying about the magnitude and the certainty.

On magnitude

The gap between the advertised return and the expected return is —.

On certainty

Expected value averages over outcomes you'll never personally experience. The single most likely result is still zero.

On the input that matters

Every figure here is dominated by your own pass rate, which no firm's marketing can tell you. The only honest estimate is your own logged results.

§10

If you do buy an account

These are affiliate links. I earn a commission at no extra cost to you, and the codes are the best rates I can get. That's what keeps every tool here free, with no paywall and nothing to buy at the end.